Thanks

+Add a show | Edit this bio
Thanks
There are multiple bands with this name 1) 5 piece, Emo/Pop-Punk band from Virginia Beach, Virginia. Check them out on Bandcamp and Facebook. 2) Thanks are an improvisational duo from London, England. The music featured here are excerpts and examples of the noise Thanks make using synths, samplers, effects, cassettes, guitars and vocals. see also www.myspace.com/thanks Read more about Thanks on Last.fm.
Update this bio   |   Artist Bio + Tag FAQs
  • PDX Pop Now! 2014 Music Festival!
    • 38
    • 0
  • Please note: There is limited parking at Tryon Farm, so please…more
    • 11
    • 0
  • House party show. Located at 2530 se 154th Portland or…more
    • 7
    • 5
  • It is with a heavy heart that we announce that this will be…more
    • 20
    • 1
  • https://www.facebook.com/events/153722621500965/
    • 2
    • 0
    • bunk bar
    • Saturday, 9/7/2013 21+
    • 1p | $free?
    • 0
    • 0
  • Poison Idea and Witchburn were recently asked to help out this…more
    • 3
    • 0
    • 1
    • 0
  • Celebrate Claire & Matt's Birthday! A celebration of friends.…more
    • tba
    • Saturday, 2/2/2013 AA
    • 8:00 Sharp, guys! | $?
    • 6
    • 0
  • Fundraiser for community outreach organization The Mother Tree…more
    • 1
    • 0
  • PDX Pop Now! Give!Guide Kick-Off Party!
    • 17
    • 0
  • plus elvis . scotty joe is a scotsmen with a thick scottish…more
    • 0
    • 0
  • http://www.facebook.com/events/210514195737690/ riday Aug 31st…more
    • 0
    • 0
  • Friday Aug 31st @ Shively Park 7-12 Babysitter (BC) White…more
    • 0
    • 0
    • rontoms
    • Sunday, 8/5/2012 21+
    • 9:00 PM | $Free
    • 3
    • 0
  • Laughing Horse is a SAFE, SOBER space! We are also all donation…more
    • 3
    • 0
  • READ: The Know will be closed (for an hour) prior to allowing…more
    • the know
    • Friday, 1/13/2012 21+
    • 8p | $5
    • 52
    • 0
  • Art Benefit Party! Art,film, DJs, food, and dancing! come out…more
    • 3
    • 0
    • rotture
    • Thursday, 4/21/2011 21+
    • 9pm. | $5.00
    • 0
    • 0
    • 0
    • 0
  • This show has been updated with the correct Garfield st. address…more
    • 0
    • 4
  • It's a free show, but please be supportive and either donate to…more
    • 0
    • 0
    • mispost from the 4th. -thanks munty
      • holocene
      • Monday, 6/7/2010 21+
      • xx | $xx
      • 0
      • 1
      • 1
      • 1
    • Hello Hello, An invitation to you: The Wednesday Knights…more
      • 0
      • 0
    • Hello Hello, An invitation to you: The Wednesday Knights…more
      • 0
      • 1
    • Benefit for the Blackrose Infoshop! Thanks for Nothing,…more
      • 0
      • 0
    • Thanksgiving pre-funk with dancing, new-wave rock, and turkey…more
      • 0
      • 0
    • Come party. Donations for wild life from seattle. Loud heavy…more
      • 0
      • 0
    • we are having a vegan thanksgiving potluck before the show for…more
      • 0
      • 0
    • -- | -- Free Show! Experimental Electronic/Rock [ pc-pdx: moved…more
      • 0
      • 0
    • pc-pdx updated: you can add new venues as well as shows, thanks…more
      • 0
      • 0
      info
      pc-pdx
      Jul 29 2008 0
      posted in: info

      PC-PDX : Updated and Redesigned!

      We've done a lot of work and hope you like the updates.. We still have a lot of ideas that we didn't get to put up yet - we wanted to get out this version now.. The Photo Gallery has been revamped to better suit the Show-Guide, it's up right now but not completely finished yet.. While you can search the photo sets right now, we have plans for all individual photos to be taggable by users, commentable and have photo links like photobucket.

      Check out the full article

      info
      Lorri Ehin
      Oct 08 2008 3
      posted in: info

      Album Review: Oh Captain, My Captain

      Oh Captain My Captain - Recklessly She Split The Sea. Releases November 10th, 2008Annie Marie, the second track, first song on Oh Captain My Captain's, "Recklessly She Split The Sea", interrupts a cheesy intro, that couldn't be any worse if they had called it "Opening Credits"; oh wait, they did.. Annie Marie is a sad pathetic song about a wimp.. It describes a girl that cheats on a boy and of course he's devastated.

      Check out the full article

      info
      The Coop
      Oct 13 2008 0
      posted in: info

      KickBall + Sound Judgment Fest Reviews - A Weekend At The Coop.

      This last weekend has been an amazing few days at The Coop.. Friday nights show was one of the coolest, and somehow smoothest house shows we've ever done.. It was a feature in both the Mercury and the WillieWeek which was a bit worrisome.. The last time that happened we had to repaint the bathroom because of asshole taggers.

      Check out the full article

      info
      Eric of White Fang
      Oct 13 2008 2
      posted in: info

      White Fang - A Call For Help

      Hello friends,As you may know, White Fang is planning to tour the U.S. next month.. We were relying on the sale of Kyle’s car, a 2000 Chevrolet Cavalier, in order to purchase a van.Unfortunately, today we were leaving a jam session and the worst thing that could ever happen, did indeed happen.Kyle, thinking that his car was in reverse, pushed on the gas sending the front of the car straight into the truck parked in front of us.. The truck is fine, but Kyle’s car is now, basically, totaled.The hood is smashed and the radiator is busted.. So is the left headlight.Now, not only do we not have a way to get a van, but we are not going to have almost any money for tour.

      Check out the full article

      comment
      pc-pdx
      Nov 18 2008 1
      posted in: comment

      Weekend With the So So Glos

      I hope you caught The So So Glos this last weekend because it was -amazing-! I have to say without a doubt, that Saturday's show at The Coop was the most incredable show i've ever seen.. Two of my favorite bands, The Taxpayers and the So So Glos just killed it.. It was great because i've never been worried about The Taxpayers being able to keep up with any of the other bands...somebody needed to give those boys a challenge!. I could definately tell there was a strong fire in Rob Taxpayers eyes to bring it after that incredable SSG set.

      Check out the full article

      video
      pc-pdx
      Dec 01 2008 0
      posted in: video

      The Teaches of Peaches - Muppet Style

      Most music videos suck, let's just be honest.. Miss Piggy singing Peaches, however, might be the best video ever made.. Somebody spent -a lot- of time on this and it was worth it, thanks.. If you haven't seen this already; boom.

      Check out the full article

      comment
      damian
      Dec 11 2008 5
      posted in: comment

      Cristmas Sweater Parties

      Just Don't Do It!I was afraid of this...to revisit last year when every portlander had the sweater party, the hipsters and the punks and every scene in-between.. I'm all about unity, bringing all our different scenes together, but this is not the answer Portland.. Like Journey should be left in 2005, let's leave the Christmas Sweater party in 2007.At Thanksgiving time, the first sweater party show was announced -sigh.. There was worry that it would come full swing, but the sweaters stayed mum - until now which is apparently the weekend to plan your sweater party.

      Check out the full article

      info
      Cary Clarke
      Jan 07 2009 0
      posted in: info

      Submit Your Music to PDX Pop Now! 2009

      PDX Pop Now!. Accepting Submissions for 2009 Compilationhttp://pdxpopnow.com/releases/1/submissions/newListen up, Portland-area musicians, because we’re ready to listen to you.. We've just opened submissions for PDX Pop Now! 2009, our sixth double-disc compilation of Portland music.. All genres, styles, aesthetics and sensibilities are welcome.For those interested in submitting music for consideration, the process is now easier than ever.

      Check out the full article

      comment
      C.Miloker
      Mar 24 2009 1
      posted in: comment

      You Done Fell Offt: Dane Cook

      Remember your first comedy special?. You had that joke about public bathrooms and the doors on the stalls, it was kind of funnie, kind of true. a lot of people would just leave the joke, but not you, you took it to another level when you did that full commit Hong-Kong-Phooey flying force egg-drop leg chop on that imaginary stall door and flatlined your ass on stage - that's fucking funny shit man!Your first two cd's were solid and entertaining.What happened with the Madison Square Garden thing man?. You're wearing $1,600 jeans and yelling at your fans for not believing some imaginary dude floats around in the sky.. What's up man - you go on extended hypotheticals not for my entertainment so i'm sure you're just doing it to hear the sound of your own voice.I did really like you in that movie though, Dan In real Life.

      Check out the full article

      photoblog
      pc-pdx
      Apr 07 2009 0
      posted in: photoblog

      Live at the Blood Bank: April 4th

      Our friend Natalie sent some pictures of the April 4th show @ the Blood Bank. "the photos are of larians and bird announced land. i suck, so i didnt get any shots of church." Well, we think she far from sucks and give mass-snaps for sharing these great shots. -Thanks Natalie!

      Check out the full article

      video
      pc-pdx
      Jul 10 2009 1
      posted in: video

      Robogeisha: The Best Shit Ever!

      Motherfucker.. This is the best shit of all time.I don't know what you want me to say here, what's to be said really?. This is just flat out THE MOTHERFUCKING BALLS!. Yo Japan: your shit is on point, and i respect you.

      Check out the full article

      info
      pc-pdx
      Aug 22 2009 2
      posted in: info

      The Wail is not Closing - Want to Run the Music/Artspace?

      Please be sure to read the second comment for the full update on this story.. The Dead Air Fresheners @ Rererato, 2008.. Photo by codfischIt's been almost a year since our last post about the art and music space on 42nd and Sumner.. The Hare Krishna house turned Rererato turned The Wail is ready for another incarnation.

      Check out the full article

      info
      milesmouthguard
      Nov 27 2009 0
      posted in: info

      Download the new DESTROY NATE ALLEN double album!

      Greetings everyone!. Tessa and I are spending a few days in Western Pennsylvania to celebrate Thanksgiving with her family.. Tour has been amazing, we’ve made all sorts of new friends & played loads and loads of rock n' roll!. So far we've played over 120 shows in around 40 states.

      Check out the full article

      info
      pc-pdx
      Feb 26 2010 2
      posted in: info

      All-Ages Movement Project Needs Your Help

      February 26, 2010 -- FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE: THE ALL-AGES MOVEMENT PROJECT FALLS TO 11 th PLACE IN PEPSI REFRESH PROJECT, IN DANGER OF LOSING $50,000 GRANT COMPETITION WITH 3 DAYS OF VOTING REMAINING.. SOS!. Mayday!. Calling all supporters of all-ages music in every town!

      Check out the full article

      info
      Bad Times
      May 03 2010 9
      posted in: info

      Repost of Dekum Manor Bulletin

      From: DekumManor (51855205)To: (61763797)Date: 5/3/2010 4:47:59 PMSubject: Seve Sheldon and Aubrey EdwardsIf anyone has the number or address for either of these assholes we at Dekum Manor would really love to get a hold of them.. After tagging both sides of the little market next to our house at my birthday party, they spray-painted FUCK YOU on our front steps.. We are now facing possible eviction from our house and the suspension of all shows because of their vandalism.. Thanks for any help you can offer, friends :-)<3 Dekum Manor

      Check out the full article

      info
      pc-pdx
      Jul 02 2010 1
      posted in: info

      Final weekend of the old PC-PDX!

      hi all,It's been a long time coming... almost an embarrassingly long time.I started talking about it around this time last year.. The earliest date that i can recall where i said we'd launch was to be New Years day, some of you may been able to nail it on a earlier date than that.ALL said and done, here in internet ink,THE NEW VERSION OF THE SHOW-GUIDE WILL LAUNCH OVER THE 4TH OF JULY WEEKEND!It's looking pretty great, i'm not going to lie - we're very excited to get the new version published and have you guys use it!WHAT'S NEW:Maps and Membership and more!SPEED:The current version in the past few weeks/months has often been slow, sometimes just gone non-responsive (ouch!). The site has been almost completely recoded - it's all 99% fresh to be able to handle to ~15 page views the site is averaging EVERY SECOND.Membership Features!If you happened to have signed up for the current implementation of Membership on pc-pdx, i'm sure you're deeply disappointed.. RURL SORR about that!. Subscribe and Track your Bands/Artists + places:Be alerted, even emailed when your subscriptions have new shows.Save shows to a custom list.Show Tags! -"being able to tag shows by genre would be pretty sweet so people into particular kinds of music could search for shows that way -name"this is the most requested feature of all time and it's finally here.

      Check out the full article

      video
      Northwest Punk
      Jan 03 2011 12
      posted in: video

      Northwest Punk Vol. 2: Stag Bitten, Kidcrash, Meth Teeth, + Big Black Cloud!

      The much anticipated (?) follow-up to Portland's video fanzine, featuring music from Stag Bitten, Kidcrash, Meth Teeth (now defunct) and Here Comes A Big Black Cloud!Northwest Punk Vol. 2 from NORTHWEST PUNK.Thanks for checking it out !

      Check out the full article

      info
      pc-pdx
      Apr 21 2011 32
      posted in: info

      Updates! Change Log and notes -> PLEASE REPORT BUGS HERE!

      Hi Everybody!. You might have noticed some stability issues lately that have caused the site to go down.. In order to keep the site up - we have basically been forced to push some updates that haven't been 100% tested or proven.. How you can help

      Check out the full article

      info
      pc-pdx
      Aug 31 2011 5
      posted in: info

      Support the Guide - play this benefit show(s?)!

      We have rad people hosting a benefit show for us and we need your awesome band to play.. It's a bit of a departure for us in that it's a 21+ show and we've never done anything not all-ages.. These people are rad though and approached us with the idea and the Show-Guide is in no position to deny awesome people giving this operation some love.SOIf your band can draw a few people out to a bar on Friday, September 30th - please comment or email and let's hang out!. September is the time where we have to pony up the majority of the ~$1200 it will take to keep us afloat for another year.Thanks to everybody for your support - 21+, mark your calendars!.ALL AGES: somebody throw a house party for us!

      Check out the full article

      info
      pc-pdx
      Oct 24 2011 8
      posted in: info

      How Punk is Your Vagina?

      how punk is your vagina?Not very unless you're rocking these punk/glam tampons AT ALL TIMES.TAMPUNXXXi thought that punk and glam were on totally opposite sides of the spectrum... anti-bullshit vs. drug-fueled decadence but hey.. shows what the fuck i know.. Thanks for setting me straight Tampax!. I promise to be less individualistic/freethinking and a better consumer from now on.Tampunx tampons: check.. Now where are my Minor Threat Nikes?

      Check out the full article

      info
      pc-pdx
      Nov 23 2011 4
      posted in: info

      PC-PDX Benefit This Friday @ Backspace!

      Hey Look!. Awesome people rounded up an awesome line-up and are throwing the show-guide a benefit show at backspace this friday. "...it's a valuable tool that has benefited the city, us haphazard bands, and clueless fans without the cliquey barrier so many feel is necessary to be cool."Thanks guys!. WE'LL SEE EVERYBODY IN PORTLAND THERE ON FRIDAY.

      Check out the full article

      info
      pc-pdx
      Jan 29 2012 2
      posted in: info

      possible server interruptions + site outages in next few days

      we found a new vps host with whom we were able to score a sweet deal and get a bitchin' hardware upgrade that essentially doubles our config stats for HALF THE MOTHERFUCKING PRICE. ...i wrote a bunch more here but i'll refrain from actually publishing my angry rant on thought that the current vps host sees this and decides AGAIN to shut off our service. -i'm sure it was entirely accidental though... just like how the site has gone down several times a week for the last ..LONG TIME NOW. anyway, everybody that is not still reading this - brace for some slow spots and a possible few hours of outage whilst we switch over.THANKS AND BIG LOVE TO YOU!

      Check out the full article

      info
      pc-pdx
      Apr 15 2012 6
      posted in: info

      WE'RE FIVE YEARS OLD! -a screenshot retrospective

      The Show-Guide at this point, as we've been told by many (thanks!), is the tip top kaleidoscope of cool as far as any diy show listing site goes.. It is an open-to-anybody wiki where you can post and edit any show to keep everybody up to date on the cool shit that happens here in pdx.. Back in 2007 there was not any central place to find and talk about shows or to keep everybody updated on last minute changes : just bands with myspace pages furiously sending out bulletins at 5pm saying that the 8'oclock show had to move houses across town or whatever and that just want awesome.We created the show-guide wiki, as it stands now, over the last five years.. I got nostalgic a few days back and decided to hit Archive.org to go through some of their screenshots of the various site styles through the years.

      Check out the full article

      info
      pc-pdx
      Dec 17 2012 1
      posted in: info

      SAVE BACKSPACE! throw down for a bad ass ALL-AGES venue.

      we jacked the following from http://www.indiegogo.com/savebackspace and suggest that you go there and make a donation or, if you personally can't, tell a friend who can afford to make a donation and save one of portlands last ALL-AGES music venues and all-around baddass space!Backspace is in Trouble.Regardless of the role Backspace plays, and that Backspace would like to continue to give to the people of Portland, we have basically been told by the landlord that if we can't come up with $10,000, by the 1st of January, that we will be thrown out.. This means we would no longer be able to play a pivotal role in being a community space for the people of Portland.. We wouldn't be able to house benefits for local non-profits.. We wouldn't be able to give bands an all-ages venue to play in.

      Check out the full article

      useless facts

      445 upcoming shows @ 69 different spots

      131 upcoming shows with flyers

      142 ALL AGES shows!

       
      Search
      Find shows, photos, blogs
      Shoutbox
      FESTICIDE: NASALROD + TINY KNIVES + TYRANTS @club 21 [Aug 16, 2014] » @CLUB 21. Stoked for FESTICIDE! Mark yer calendars.
      -7/22/2014 12:36:49 PM
      To ROSE: I'm Chico from U.S. of the Americas, 39 and guapo. Rose dump that guy he does not know what he is losing. You deserve a better and more fun lover. Plus I dance Menudo style... wink ¤ Call me at 503 555-3215
      -7/21/2014 9:23:45 PM
      Velcrocore @dante's [Aug 08, 2014] » Fuck yeah, Get Dead!
      -7/21/2014 7:13:12 PM
      carolblueroombar Great local blues artist playing in an intimate venue at the Blue Room Bar.
      -7/21/2014 3:14:43 PM
      Mike @third eye shoppe [Aug 23, 2014] » There's something stirring in the air and we all know change is the only constant. So in celebration of zef, novelty, insight and the village shaman, we bring you Artopium's Roving Festival, Third Eye. We really couldn't think of a better way to be festive about our inner spirit than to create a themed festval of…read the full comment
      -7/18/2014 9:17:45 AM
      @fish bowl [Jul 26, 2014] » hell yeah backyard shows are the best!!!
      -7/17/2014 3:32:02 PM
      sal lost penis. reward if found.
      -7/17/2014 12:30:24 PM
      rose my name is Rose from u.s, I want to thank the great Dr abolo for what he did for me he brought happiness back into my life. My boyfriend left me and told me is over I was devastated as I loved him so much I decided to contact a spell caster and I met a friend who told me of a great doctor and I decided to contact him and he told me in three days my boyfriend will call me and beg me to accept him I
      -7/17/2014 3:36:10 AM
      Mars Sci-Fi, Horn Driven Glam Performance-Art Band seeks drummers/percussionists; We play lots of shows! Please check out lovebombgogo.com
      -7/13/2014 4:22:00 PM
      pisa iwant money
      -7/13/2014 7:03:54 AM
      show-bot! whoa, it's a post-Ramones world.
      -7/12/2014 11:06:58 AM
      country doctor Witch Vomit 2maro! Cant wait - these guys rule
      -7/11/2014 2:12:18 PM
      agit @slabtown [Aug 23, 2014] » After waiting for 2 decades to see Dropdead I don't care how many bands I have to wait through, it's going to be rad.
      -7/11/2014 12:32:06 PM
      PIRATE PARTY @ 270 NE South Shore (Portland) ... noon-night Sat. July 12 ¤ ¤ southshorecollective.org
      -7/11/2014 10:38:15 AM
      Aaron @low expectations [Jul 11, 2014] » Early show...get there on time! It'll be a good one.
      -7/10/2014 9:07:13 PM
      cincinnati @slabtown [Aug 23, 2014] » i was excited for this, nevermind now, i'm not sitting throuh 4 extra bands for no reason. same with excruciating terror, way to ruin a good show. everything doesn't need to be a fest.
      -7/9/2014 5:57:48 PM
      yeahdude @east end [Aug 03, 2014] » https://www.facebook.com/events/1441171362815876
      -7/8/2014 6:49:52 PM
      yeahdude @cruzroom [Jul 18, 2014] » https://www.facebook.com/events/839813856031491
      -7/8/2014 12:56:29 PM
      show-bot! @foggy notion [Jul 19, 2014] » can somebody please edit and update with the *new* date, please and thanks and stuff.
      -7/7/2014 1:29:38 PM
      church of rock @slabtown [Jul 07, 2014] » doors at 7:30. show starts at 8:00!!
      -7/7/2014 2:23:12 AM
      YEAHDUDE @holocene [Jul 23, 2014] » https://www.facebook.com/events/1440358239563477
      -7/6/2014 1:12:47 AM
      carolblueroombar @blue room bar, the [Jul 03, 2014] » Bike over. the Bue Room is on the Springwater Corridor Bike Trail where it hits 82nd Ave. We have plenty of bike parking
      -7/3/2014 1:09:02 PM
      Mustin Douch @foggy notion [Jul 03, 2014] » Check out Ghost Idols up from L.A. at the Foggy Notion Tomorrow (Thurs July 3rd)!! With Muzzy and the Abnorms!! http://ghostidols.bandcamp.com/
      -7/1/2014 4:04:13 PM
      lifewellwasted @laughing horse books and film collective [Jul 03, 2014] » this is gonna be soo fun!!
      -6/28/2014 8:45:16 PM
      lifewellwasted @d-block, the [Jul 07, 2014] » This is gonna be a rad show at an indoor SKATEPARK!!!!!!! lets do this!
      -6/28/2014 8:37:12 PM
      @f house [Jun 27, 2014] » Was I supposed to play this show? I don't recall ever knowing anything about it. ¤ ¤ -Juicy Karkass
      -6/27/2014 10:59:07 PM
      YEAHDUDE @bunk bar [Jul 04, 2014] » https://www.facebook.com/events/549265668511729/
      -6/27/2014 12:53:02 AM
      carolblueroombar @blue room bar, the [Jun 27, 2014] » The We Shared Milk on just coming back from a tour in Alaska. And are getting ready to perform with Joan Jett Aug 30th. They were ranked one of the top 5 bands by wWeek in 2012. See them now in a small venue the brand new Blue Room Bar @Cartlandia .8145 SE 82nd Ave. Yes, way out there on SE 82nd but a great…read the full comment
      -6/25/2014 2:04:45 AM
      creatureguts @east end [Jun 24, 2014] » WHUT!? This is gonna be awesome!
      -6/24/2014 7:34:18 PM
      Dork-O @slabtown [Jun 24, 2014] » What time???
      -6/24/2014 3:08:45 PM
      YEAHDUDE @billy rays [Jul 12, 2014] » https://www.facebook.com/events/672115399523902/
      -6/24/2014 12:10:37 PM
      carolblueroombar @blue room bar, the [Jun 28, 2014] » chamber pophttp://www.cartlandia.com/the-blue-room/
      -6/23/2014 1:21:26 AM
      Aaron @crystal ballroom [Jun 22, 2014] » This show is next month on a Tuesday!
      -6/22/2014 9:35:51 PM
      Phil @high water mark [Jun 25, 2014] » GoofPunx!
      -6/22/2014 4:35:01 PM
      YEAHDUDE @radar restaurant [Jun 23, 2014] » http://www.ticketfly.com/purchase/event/571373?wrKey=4E5B580759CBCC8506A8531A317CF704
      -6/21/2014 8:57:45 PM
      Ryan Remains @hollywood babylon [Jun 21, 2014] » All Ages SKA show tonight @ HOLLYWOOD BABYLON (NE 45 & Sandy). 7pm. FREE!
      -6/21/2014 1:10:23 PM
      YEAHDUDE @doug fir [Jun 27, 2014] » https://www.facebook.com/events/284980201673212/
      -6/20/2014 6:32:59 PM
      me @know, the [Jun 18, 2014] » Vegan is not a genre, you chucklefucks
      -6/18/2014 12:03:36 PM
      Deep Roy @laughing horse books and film collective [Jun 27, 2014] » http://plaguewidow.bandcamp.com/
      -6/18/2014 10:39:22 AM
      Uncle Sean @9326 n. wall ave. [Jun 21, 2014] » https://www.facebook.com/events/555637131212534/?ref_dashboard_filter=upcoming
      -6/16/2014 2:59:32 PM
      Max 400 chars What say you?